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| We exist to further the cause of restoring Scotland’s independence. Our platform draws together all the disparate groups, parties, organisations, politicians and individuals, in Scotland and beyond, who share this one basic, democratic objective.
The Scottish Independence Convention was born on St Andrew’s Day, 2005. Since then we have been busy working for the day when Scots will be invited to vote in a referendum on regaining our independence from the British state. We are an umbrella organisation working to unite and encourage all who want independence for Scotland to meet on common ground and have their say in the growing debate on Scotland’s constitutional future.
We welcome everyone, regardless of party political affiliation, who shares our vision of Scotland being a free and democratic independent state. Your support will hasten the day when Scotland is reborn as an independent member of the international family of nations.
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SNP win Maryfield by-election in Dundee!
SNP 1550 48%
Labour 1013 31%
LibDem 354 11%
Tory 224 7%
SSP 52 2%
Independent (Simmons) 35 1%
Independent (Young) 28 1%
SNP 14 Councillors
Labour 9 Councillors
Lib Dem 2 Councillors
Tories 3 Councillors
When you say experience...... If you ask if the SNP are experienced enough then I will give you an answer. No party has enough experience untill they get the job. The SNP has done more for Scotland than Labour. They have nearly three years experience under their wing and in such a financial climate as just now. Now is that not a stupid question?
but would any other party have a better chance? are the snp experianced enough to deal with this? really? i mean its very easy to say it now. but when it actually comes to it?
This is were independance comes into play. With Scotland independant its industry would be able to flourish. The 'Brittish' government squander our precious money. Maybe, just maybe, they might concentrate in a UNION bail out plan resulting in the backing of small businesses and the investment into adult further education. The unemployed need to get back into work so we can start to stabilize the economy. The only reason that these buisinesses and industry and mass unemployment is because of a failing Labour government in Westminster!
well i suppose the primary function is simply to travel from A to B. but then im guessing thats what im meant to say huh? but with unemployment levels rising and industries shutting down where will jobs come from?
Those so-called jobs that have been created by industry have quickly been lost because of the half-wits in Westminster. The whole world has now suffered in the world of industry. You call that successful? Im not to sure what planet you've been living on these past few months. Funny things have happened to peoples jobs!
They vanished! Back to the bio fuel industry.First of all it isnt planned its being taken a step at a time. Second I would like to ask you a question which I will answer in my reply to your next query: Lets look at industry, look at cars for example; Why do people want cars?
i suppose i hadnt thought of that. though the improvements in quality of life and the jobs it created as well as the long term positive effects it has had on the world was more what i was going for there haha.
going back to previously made points, i was curious to know about the bio industry that is planned for scotland. what would be the actual source of the profits you predicted and what jobs would be supplied for the unemployed here? i have never heard of this potential option before
Just a thought.......
i'm not trying to cancell out pride. Im just out there to get the message across that OUR country comes first! I am proud that industry moved forward in that time period. However....think of all that polllution?
what a very dismissive way to speak to someone simply because they do not share the same strength of pride in a country as you do. son. do tell me how the industrial revolution is an invalid point? there are many sources of being proud of being a scottish citizen, but this does not mean that a pride in being british has to be cancelled out.
Stop there. First of all, these people would call them selves English before Brittish. You are creating false dreams for yourself son. Your reasons are invlaid. Are you Scottish? Name all the things that makes you proud to be a Scot. Then compare that to what you said about being a proud Brit. Massive difference in the comparison of pride you will find!
britian has also produced some of the worlds most famous authors ie shakespeare, dickens, austen. Isaac Newton was also british. we were the fore front of the industrial revolution which has had the obvious effects world wide.
these again are valid reasons to be proud to be british
your point about the first world war is true. it did break men. but some of the feats of bravery that were shown during the war shouldnt be ignored or forgotten either.
The spirit by those back home, especially women, in doing their part is also impressive.
what i actually said there was "however the seond world war stopped nazi germany from wiping out the jewish race ". i didnt say we knew about the holocaust plans being made in germany. or have an extensive knowledge of things such as the specialised units of nazi soldiers who would shoot jews and pile their bodies in massive holes. this happening until it proved to expensive. i am not totally unaware of this subject. but british actions did prevent the total destruction of that race. a source of pride no?
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Those lines tell you that these men are broken souls. They are described to be beggars and hags. A hag is the highest insult. a woman that is practically the scruffiest horrible type of woman on earth. Wilfred gives us atotal different imagery of how we see the army today.
Now does this small, effortless piece of analysis not tell you a huge story. This isnt bravery, or in fact keeping their dignity intact, it is saying that these men have giving up hope and are waiting for a revival, death.
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I dont know in what way or why you read Dulce et decorum est but as I said earlier, the amazing use of similies blatently screams at you that these men were feminized: cowards, This isnt a sexist remark its from the point of view of a man from this time period. From the very first line of the poem it tells you these men were broken:
Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock - kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Now tell me, do these men seem brave after only two lines of a poem?
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I myself have a good knowledge and understanding of this sensitive era. Maybe to give you an insight into this I should show you my 24 page report on the build up to and the Holocaust. Lots of men who fought in these wars didn't sign up for it. They were forced to go. And when they were fighting, it wasnt bravery keeping them going, it was the fear of loos of human life. A natural human reaction.
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As for world war two; like I said I obviously stated it was a more valid war, and I personally, if had the chance, would have fought in that war if called up. However you said the war was to stop nazi Germany wiping out the Jewish race. Your history is slightly inacurate as the war started because of the invasion of Poland which Britain had no choice but to declare war as they promised to protect Poland against enemy attack. Along the lines you have seemed to have forgot that any country outside nazi Germany occupation was totaly oblivious to the fact that the nazis were murdering and discriminating jews and other races. I suggest you work on that sensitive area of recent history before you comment on it.