.Atheists
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- Utworzona grupa: July 2007
- bebo.gazeta.pl/atheistsagnostics
- Oficjalna witryna:
- http://www.fstdt.net/
- Motto
- The new profile layout is shit. Where is your god now?
- Ja, o mnie i jeszcze raz ja
- "Atheists" is the most widely known and recognised Atheistic group on bebo, with the largest number of members.
What Is Atheism?
. The doctrine or belief that there is no God.
A lack of belief in the existence of God or Gods.
This page is for the discussion of Religion and is a place for Atheists & Agnostics (etc.)
to come together as a community.
Reasons Why We Do Not Believe In God:
•Evil in the World
•Contradictory Characteristics in Gods
•Religion is Self-Contradictory
•Because religion is improbable and impractical
•Life is Material, not Supernatural
•Needs sauce
Links Links:
http://www.bebo.com/atheists-and-proud
http://www.bebo.com/Communisms
http://www.bebo.com/TheRuinedCity
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Should .Atheists be expanded into a religion and politics discussion group?
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- Nay
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Calling All Atheists! Where are you from/live
- Scottyland
- England or some other part of Britain
- Other
- America
- NZ
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- A Reformed Atheist (used to be a Christian or some sort of Theist)
- A Reformed Theist (Used to be an Atheist/Agnostic)
- Can't Remember Not Being An Atheist
- Can't Remember Not Being A Theist
- Nothing/Don't give a shit/Agnostic
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Challenge Your Beliefs
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Imtiaz Latif
Athiests challange your beliefs, read this book!!2 odpowiedzi 7 tygodni
Prophesy book regarding the coming of the antichrist worth £12 from Amazon.com yours FREE to download in e-book format as kindly provided by the author, Michael Mullen, a true story.
Download page is below
http://www.waroftheangels.org/orderp...
Save it to ur desktop, and read! -
Save the Atheist!
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Needs ideas for the group, anything and everything accepted.9 odpowiedzi 14 tygodni -
WOOP! I helped.
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Great Atheistic Quotes:9 odpowiedzi 26 tygodni
“Saying that a theist man is happier than an atheist man is no more to the point than saying that a drunken man is happier than a sober one.” – George Barnard Shaw
“All thinking men are atheists.” – Ernest Hemingway
“I believe that all important matters must be settled here, not in the clouds somewhere after we kick off.” – Billy Joel.
“So long as the universe had a beginning we could suppose it had a creator. But if the universe is completely self-contained, having no boundary or edge, it would neither be created nor destroyed, it would simply be. What place then for a creator.” - Stephen Hawking.
“Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.” - Denis Diderot.
“All religions bear traces of the fact that they arose during the intellectual immaturity of the human race before it had learned the obligations to speak the truth. Not one of them makes it the duty of it’s God to be truthful and understandable in his communications.” – Friedrich Nietzsche
“We have just enough religion to make us hate, but not enough religion to make us love one another.” Jonathan Swift.
“If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for a reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.” – Albert Einstein
Religion is no more than a byproduct of fear. Fear that our lives are so short and trivial that when gone, only a handful will be remembered, and even then, their memory burns no longer than that of tiny candle.
Technology and science have provided us with the tools and means to progress further in life. Where technology gave us medicines and cures, Religion gave us false hope and preparation for an imaginary afterlife. Now, To put it simply, Who would you rather have at your bedside if you were dying of cancer..?
A doctor who’d devoted his entire life to the medical profession, Or, A priest who had devoted his entire life to religion?
A simple question and one you think would always be followed by this answer. “The former.” Unfortunately, that’s not so. There are an increasing number of religious people in this country, whether that be Christians, Muslims, Hindus.. Whatever. The numbers are rising.
Now.. Certain religious groups would argue science with religion.
Which is like fighting… A fire with a kitchen knife. Pointless.
Now.. Where religion would tell you that this life is not the end.
Science would continue to strive to make our life expectancy longer. So.. In essence.. Does that not mean that religious groups do not value this life as much as Atheists?
As they spend the majority of their time on earth preparing for an afterlife. Where a non-believer would most likely wish to make the most of their lives, theists continue to hold back and stop from enjoying some of the more fruitful pleasures that life has to offer.
And all for what..? All for a chance at those pearly gates in the sky. Still.. These people claim to value the life that ‘God’ gave them. Even though they devote the majority of their time trying to be accepted into the afterlife.
Maybe if God(s) were real, he (they) are merely testing your understanding of your chosen holy book. I mean.. Don’t they all say to value the life you’ve been given?
Yet you fill your minds with plans and theories about how to get into this blissful second world.
So maybe be trying so hard to get into said afterlife, you’re merely condemning yourself to hell.
I find it amusing how these same people doubt the possibility of evolution but have this unwavering faith towards a large hairy man in a cloud.
That seems a little strange to me, I mean, Surely common sense would say that genetics and science are far more fruitful than belief and faith.
When has religion ever helped the world.. Except from filling the minds of vulnerable youths with some false image of a higher being?
What has science done for the world…? We
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The Dragon in My Garage - Carl Sagan
"A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage"
Suppose (I'm following a group therapy approach by the psychologist Richard Franklin) I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want to check it out, see for yourself. There have been innumerable stories of dragons over the centuries, but no real evidence. What an opportunity!
"Show me," you say. I lead you to my garage. You look inside and see a ladder, empty paint cans, an old tricycle -- but no dragon.
"Where's the dragon?" you ask.
"Oh, she's right here," I reply, waving vaguely. "I neglected to mention that she's an invisible dragon."
You propose spreading flour on the floor of the garage to capture the dragon's footprints.
"Good idea," I say, "but this dragon floats in the air."
Then you'll use an infrared sensor to detect the invisible fire.
"Good idea, but the invisible fire is also heatless."
You'll spray-paint the dragon and make her visible.
"Good idea, but she's an incorporeal dragon and the paint won't stick." And so on. I counter every physical test you propose with a special explanation of why it won't work.
Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal, floating dragon who spits heatless fire and no dragon at all? If there's no way to disprove my contention, no conceivable experiment that would count against it, what does it mean to say that my dragon exists? Your inability to invalidate my hypothesis is not at all the same thing as proving it true. Claims that cannot be tested, assertions immune to disproof are veridically worthless, whatever value they may have in inspiring us or in exciting our sense of wonder. What I'm asking you to do comes down to believing, in the absence of evidence, on my say-so. The only thing you've really learned from my insistence that there's a dragon in my garage is that something funny is going on inside my head. You'd wonder, if no physical tests apply, what convinced me. The possibility that it was a dream or a hallucination would certainly enter your mind. But then, why am I taking it so seriously? Maybe I need help. At the least, maybe I've seriously underestimated human fallibility. Imagine that, despite none of the tests being successful, you wish to be scrupulously open-minded. So you don't outright reject the notion that there's a fire-breathing dragon in my garage. You merely put it on hold. Present evidence is strongly against it, but if a new body of data emerge you're prepared to examine it and see if it convinces you. Surely it's unfair of me to be offended at not being believed; or to criticize you for being stodgy and unimaginative -- merely because you rendered the Scottish verdict of "not proved."
Imagine that things had gone otherwise. The dragon is invisible, all right, but footprints are being made in the flour as you watch. Your infrared detector reads off-scale. The spray paint reveals a jagged crest bobbing in the air before you. No matter how skeptical you might have been about the existence of dragons -- to say nothing about invisible ones -- you must now acknowledge that there's something here, and that in a preliminary way it's consistent with an invisible, fire-breathing dragon.
Now another scenario: Suppose it's not just me. Suppose that several people of your acquaintance, including people who you're pretty sure don't know each other, all tell you that they have dragons in their garages -- but in every case the evidence is maddeningly elusive. All of us admit we're disturbed at being gripped by so odd a conviction so ill-supported by the physical evidence. None of us is a lunatic. We speculate about what it would mean if invisible dragons were really hiding out in garages all over the world, with us humans just catching on. I'd rather it not be true, I tell you. But maybe all those ancient European and Chinese myths about dragons weren't myths at all.
Gratifyingly, some dragon-size footprints in the flou3 komentarze 54 dni
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I have a dream.
I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal."
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the colour of their skin but by the content of their character.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification" -- one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; "and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together."5 komentarzy 98 dni
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Why?
by Paula Kirby
I am an atheist because I see no good reason to believe in any god or gods at all. In other words, I see no evidence for any god or gods of any description. It therefore doesn’t matter if you think I’ve got the specific attributes of “your” god wrong. I don’t disbelieve in your god because of the attributes I associate with it – I disbelieve in it because I see no evidence to suggest that ANY god exists.
If you could suddenly produce good reason to believe there was a god at all, that wouldn’t then automatically mean it was the god you believe in. As you’ve suggested in your question, different religions and different individual believers have completely different ideas of what their god might be like. They can’t all be right.
So, if you are hoping to convince us that your beliefs are right, you have a two-stage process to go through:
1. Demonstrate good evidence for why there is a god of any kind at all
2. THEN demonstrate why it must be the one YOU believe in.
And, of course, by “demonstrate”, I mean “provide evidence”, not “please tell us why it just feels right to you”.
NB. The existence of questions for which we don’t yet have answers is NOT evidence for a god. It’s not THAT long ago that we didn’t understand volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, or even thunder, and angry gods seemed to be the only possible explanation. No sensible person these days would suggest that a god, angry or otherwise, was necessary to account for them.44 komentarze 203 dni















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Anyway, has anyone read any Spinoza?
I'm confused. One of us is an idiot, and I can't work out whether it's Spinoza, or me.
He's world renowned, so I assume there's some intellectual merit in there somewhere that I'm just not getting. Just seems to me like he's some moron who announced "I'm a philosopher", then everyone listened as he talked a lot of shit about the world 'being' God....seems less like philosophy and more like just some random new religion.
Multiculturalism. Red herring from racialists. I abhor the very notion of "multiculturalism" in the dictionary definition of "lots of different cultures within one nation". Bullshit. The melting-pot model is what should be pursued in the name of social cohesion.
The knuckle-draggers have this bloody cretinous image of a monoculture, taking Britain as an example, and not ONE of them can tell you what it is. Stiff upper lips? Cups of tea?
Being half-naked, spewing your guts out on the street pavement on a Friday night?
Definately isn't MY culture.
The point I'm making is that there isn't an objective 'culture' for there to be a multiculture. There are individuals with their own tastes and peculiarities. Let them have it, stop pushing 'your' culture on other people. Arrogance.
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I've never seen you pass. (YOU COMMY-BALL HOG!)
Then I'll pass
No, he was just exhibiting himself for kicks.
Was he making a controversial racial statement in doing so?
You obviously haven't seen him streaking at the commy-ball games.
I am not contributing to this one due to Samson is back on the page and I don't think he's been corrupted to that extent.
Just because you are a part of multiple cultures, doesn't mean you need to hold all of them in equal stead. Likewise, just because someone is multilingual doesn't mean they can't prefer a particular language that they speak.
Fuck yeah, correct definitions!
There is no such thing as a true 'multiculturist' society, and never shall be.
For one to be fully accepting of every other culture, there has to be other cultures. But if someone is a member of a particular culture, then they obviously value their culture over another culture and are therefore feckin' cynical hyprocrites if they claim to be multicultural.
...What reasoning skills I have
You assume they can adapt.
Well obviously I'm not suggesting we sink down to their level, but arguments at our level they don't understand - the gap is too large to cross. This is why I'm advocating a step in between, not quite anti-logic but not quite logic, to allow them to rise to a point where logic works.
Cumbria (region in England) saw what meteorologists are calling a "1000 year flood" (as in, once in every 1000 years).
ZOMG YOU'RE RIGHT!!!!"
In fairness, God did warn them not to use condoms.
"Useful though, theists seem more receptive to that then argument."
I think I see what you mean. We should beat anti-logic with anti-logic?
"There's a God."
"Ah, but there can't be a God because pink dogs have rhino horns."
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Pfft. Doing it wrong. Get a blimp-city instead.
I need an ark, preferably Naoh class.
Oh Lord, why have you rained on me....
Useful though, theists seem more receptive to that then argument. Show them that to open their minds and then tell them how baseless it is, and give them the real edition whilst they're still listening?
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Zeitgeist. Bullshit. Don't not listen.
It's an example of some people putting something up on the internet and it thus seeming true.
MIGHT being the operative word. Hasn't happened yet. But it might if/when I get a job.
Haha, didn't you say you might be getting it?
Zeitgeist is completely baseless, if there was a theist around they would devour you for that