Hunting in Ireland <FUCKtheBAN7811>
"A ban in Ireland will never make any difference!!!!!!!!!"
|hunter trials dates and places!||3/4/08|
|SOUTH .COUNTY. DUBLIN .HUNT.-ON-31th MARCH-AT CHARLEY O NEALS-ABBEYFEILD FARM-CO.KILDARE-CLANE|
|Should the Government ban fox-hunting? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!||2/2/08|
NO: Kate Hoey says the ban in England has created a huge waste of money and court time without making foxes any safer. It is extraordinary that anyone is even asking this question. Not only because there has never been any evidence to justify a ban in terms of animal welfare, but also because any Irish politician need only look as far as England and Wales to see the cruelty, confusion and controversy a ban would cause.
I grew up on a farm in Co Antrim and have been a vocal opponent of the legislation to ban hunting in England and Wales. Make no mistake, the ban in England and Wales had nothing to do with the welfare of the fox. Hunting became a political football in a game played by many MPs as revenge for nearly every slight inflicted on them during long years in opposition - payback for the miners! Labour MPs became increasingly obsessed with the issue, so the Government set up an inquiry into hunting with dogs. "Hunting", said the Burns report "seriously compromises the welfare of the fox", which should be no surprise since the point of the activity is to kill them, but found that "insensibility and death will normally follow within a matter of seconds once the fox is caught" and concluded "none of the legal methods of fox control is without difficulty from an animal welfare perspective". The inquiry was therefore inconclusive and certainly did not sustain a case for making hunting illegal. Cabinet ministers, like Jack Straw, urged caution but they bargained without the single-mindedness of a zealot-like group of backbench MPs willing to blackmail the government over other controversial legislation. One colleague, Gerald Kauffman, even threatened to vote against the government, for the first time, on health service reform if hunting was not banned. He and others saw no irony in this ridiculous sense of priorities.
Eventually, after 700 hours of parliamentary debate and nearly eight years after Labour came to power, a ban on hunting came into force on February 18th, 2005. In the weeks before the vote, government had received criticism from every part of the media: from normally supportive left-leaning papers like the Guardian and Independent which held no brief for hunting but were appalled at the illiberal behaviour of parliament, to huge circulation popular dailies like the Sun and the Daily Mail.
So, three years on, where are we? Every pack of foxhounds that was hunting in February 2005 is still hunting. Some ride out with eagles or with just two hounds to hunt within exemptions in the Act. Others hunt trails of fox-based scent to recreate traditional hunting. Hunting rabbits remains legal, although hunting hares does not. All are absolutely determined that they will survive to see the Hunting Act repealed and are gaining support rather than losing it. More people hunt than ever before, and more than 300,000 members of the public supported their local hunt last St Stephen's Day. The law has been ridiculed and derided and the case for repeal is overwhelming.
The hunting community has now become one of the most active and effective political campaigning groups in the country. MPs in marginal seats who supported the ban were targeted at the last election, 29 anti-hunting MPs on the target list lost their seats, not just in rural areas but also some right in central London as hunts sent their supporters in to key marginal constituencies.
They are not the only losers. A few hunts have been targeted by animal rights activists and subject to endless allegations about their hunting activities. Police officers with many better things to do are being asked to make judgments about whether hounds are hunting the scent of a dead fox or the scent of a live one, or whether they are hunting a hare or a rabbit. A very few huntsmen have been dragged through the courts. One, Tony Wright of the Exmoor Foxhounds, was found guilty in the Magistrates Court and his conviction was only thrown out two years after the legal process began. Elsewhere the courts are tied up with arguments over every aspect of the legislation with huge waste of money and court time.
And then there is the fox. Is he any better off? Of course not. He is still legally shot, snared and trapped, and the car remains the biggest killer of foxes in Britain. Just as the campaign against hunting was not about animal welfare, so the ban is not about the fox. His life is no better, and his end often less assured as hunting left none wounded.
Of course the Irish Government should not ban hunting unless it wants to be seen as bigoted, biased and out of touch. A modern, liberal Republic does not need to follow the lead of the outdated and prejudiced class warriors on Westminster's back benches.
Kate Hoey is the British Labour MP for Vauxhall and chairwoman of the Countryside Alliance.
|stag hunting ban||1/29/08|
|The Government has been accused of destroying a 150-year-old tradition after effectively banning the country's only stag hunt.|
Cracking the green whip, Environment Minister John Gormley banned the Ward Union Hunt in Co Meath from allowing hounds to actually pursue a tame stag though the countryside this Christmas
|function whereby the weak, the sick, and the injured are discovered||2/24/07|
|Hunting performs a vital search and dispatch function whereby the weak, the sick, and the injured are discovered and quickly dispatched.|
No other method of culling performs this function. Hunting uniquely reproduces the natural selection process whereby weak and sick animals are culed in direct relation to their debility, thereby promting the health and vigour of the spcies. Hunting leaves no wounded or damaged survivors.
|y ban de ban||2/24/07|
|The enemies of hunting are the enemies of farming. |
They promote animal rights instead of animal welfare. They seek a world where we no longer have the right to eat meat or keep pets. They have a misguided cause, which will gain momentum if not disputed with logic and common sense. Hunting is the first target but fishing and shooting as well as rearing chickens, cattle and sheep will follow.